tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post7226395420373537622..comments2024-03-24T15:03:03.162+00:00Comments on EV Sales: China September 2020José Ponteshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-39965627676246380562020-10-30T10:40:34.786+00:002020-10-30T10:40:34.786+00:00Thank you Jose, no probs. Some success this time f...Thank you Jose, no probs. Some success this time for me. <br /><br />My question is: Would you please clarify what kind of data you're presenting here please? There seems to me to be three kinds of numbers being reported online for China ie factory, wholesale and insurance numbers/data. <br />eg I see many EV here with te same numbers as 'factory' data but the Wuling Mini is very different, at 14K vs 20K on other reports. Would clarify why this is so, or point in a direction where I find out. Thank you. Classic Rock Video DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01511769579753861316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-44100243882485409922020-10-29T14:02:26.535+00:002020-10-29T14:02:26.535+00:00Thanks for the insightful input, i think i will us...Thanks for the insightful input, i think i will use it in future China posts.José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-34410142912787492642020-10-29T11:33:48.803+00:002020-10-29T11:33:48.803+00:00@antrik
Thanks for bringing some light into this. ...@antrik<br />Thanks for bringing some light into this. Kooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18190230449830197502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-29952615126886551152020-10-29T06:51:50.188+00:002020-10-29T06:51:50.188+00:00I believe the "cat pack" takes inspirati...I believe the "cat pack" takes inspiration from Deng XiaoPing's quote:" I do not care whether it is a black cat or a white cat, if it catches mice, then it is a good cat". Which I believe is a response to a question about the economic system that China should follow. <br /><br />Just saying. Jin Feng Gohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06373215752875001459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-12466719258566753022020-10-29T05:50:51.010+00:002020-10-29T05:50:51.010+00:00Apparently the K-ZE became a victim of Renault end...Apparently the K-ZE became a victim of Renault ending their combustion car Chinese joint-venture... While the K-ZE is made by a *different* joint-venture, which is still in operation, the dissolved one was responsible for all sales, including the K-ZE -- thus leaving it stranded without a distribution channel...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-38738838173785792102020-10-27T19:18:42.589+00:002020-10-27T19:18:42.589+00:00I don't think the Wuling Mini will be disrupti...I don't think the Wuling Mini will be disrupting two- and three-wheelers. Dirt cheap four-wheeled low-speed EVs have already been competing in this space. The fact that there is now also a highway-capable EV that is not that much more expensive (but comes with much higher licensing requirements), probably won't change the equation all that much...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-61295739421908817542020-10-27T19:07:43.595+00:002020-10-27T19:07:43.595+00:00It appears the K-ZE hasn't yet been updated to...It appears the K-ZE hasn't yet been updated to meet the new 300 km NEDC range threshold for getting any subsidies...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-56897592639098712882020-10-27T19:03:29.274+00:002020-10-27T19:03:29.274+00:00BYD has always had pretty strong PHEV sales: proba...BYD has always had pretty strong PHEV sales: probably because they are one of the few Chinese makers to even bother making PHEVs -- thus getting a pretty large piece of a smaller pie...<br /><br />Nevertheless, even for BYD the share of PHEVs vs. BEVs keeps declining. While PHEVs used to dominate sales of BYD models offered in both variants, this is clearly no longer the case for most models...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-82016482576464863012020-10-27T18:58:22.257+00:002020-10-27T18:58:22.257+00:00I doubt SGMW suffers from a battery shortage. Chin...I doubt SGMW suffers from a battery shortage. Chinese battery makers have been building up huge production capacities over the past years, in expectations of continuing exponential growth -- but with the growth slump that started last July, much of that new capacity is probably idle right now...<br /><br />(Which is likely the main reason why an increasing number of car makers are considering using CATL cells even outside of China: right now they might be the only globally positioned battery maker that can deliver in good quantities...)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-74656937455454641412020-10-27T12:16:27.922+00:002020-10-27T12:16:27.922+00:00Well, the publishing is not automatic, it needs th...Well, the publishing is not automatic, it needs the author approval.<br /><br />I'm doing this because there are plenty of "spam commercials" being posted as comments here, so i have to separate true comments from bot-originated spam.José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-84331252533849933972020-10-27T10:11:42.346+00:002020-10-27T10:11:42.346+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Classic Rock Video DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01511769579753861316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-26112851343666717102020-10-27T10:11:00.021+00:002020-10-27T10:11:00.021+00:00test .. wondering if this login will ever work so ...test .. wondering if this login will ever work so I can comment. Beats me why it doesn't. Classic Rock Video DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01511769579753861316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-13240942337379694522020-10-27T08:44:08.788+00:002020-10-27T08:44:08.788+00:00According to https://insideevs.com/news/450192/ren...According to https://insideevs.com/news/450192/renault-electric-car-sales-tripled-september-2020/ Renault sold only 242 of them YTD and 0 in September, so there may be some production problems.IWasHidingDearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15046746606351815723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-33028166575864837692020-10-26T19:54:11.515+00:002020-10-26T19:54:11.515+00:00I would have thought that the Renault K-ZE would b...I would have thought that the Renault K-ZE would become visible sometime. <br />Maybe for budget oriented buyers a SUV premium is not worthwhile as Ora and GM Wuling are doing much better. <br />Kooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18190230449830197502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-36430393397703852382020-10-26T17:53:38.864+00:002020-10-26T17:53:38.864+00:00Li Xiang One EREV has a electric range of 180 km w...Li Xiang One EREV has a electric range of 180 km which puts it on par with MiniEV. So beyond 180 km, the 1,2 liter petrol engine starts. This vehicle keeps moving up the ladder slowly.<br /><br />BYD Han PHEV carries price of $31.400 with 81 km range<br />BMW Le PHEV carries price of $62.000 with 58 km range<br />Difficult for BMW to keep up its sales<br /><br />Of course quality and other things are there. But Model 3 LR should be much more affordable. <br />Buick Velite 6 was in 2020, but not in Sep shows things are changing fast. famlinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-60430979403251543472020-10-26T17:31:56.070+00:002020-10-26T17:31:56.070+00:00@Jose Pontes: Big thanks for 2 separate tables. Wa...@Jose Pontes: Big thanks for 2 separate tables. Way to go, hope this will be applied for Europe & Global.<br />2020 @ 5,2% vs 2019 @ 5,5%. So inching closer despite drastic subsidy cuts and pandemic.<br />131.022 will give a massive boost to global sales along with Germany's high tide.<br /><br />Wuling EV disrupts "not only against 4-wheeled private transportation, but also against 2 and 3-wheelers." and this is very important as many poor people could now afford a 4-wheeler to carry family of 4.<br /><br />Model 3 sold only 11.329 units, but they sold whatever they produced and in Sep, they had 10 day holiday.<br />If they only this much in super-sep, then they must have sold lot of Model 3 in USA or probably lot of Model Y. <br /><br />Seems 2 cats delivered 6.176, their new best. Baojun E-Series can also repeat MiniEV success, probably they need more batteries. BMW 530Le PHEV is not Sep table, this shows they should wake up. At least BMW has 1 in 2020 table, Benz & Audi has 0.<br /><br />BYD Han in both BEV & PHEV forms being in Sep table shows PHEVs have importance.<br />famlinnoreply@blogger.com