tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post3109705154075704740..comments2024-03-24T15:03:03.162+00:00Comments on EV Sales: Netherlands February 2020José Ponteshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-10963659719914674992020-03-12T15:14:05.252+00:002020-03-12T15:14:05.252+00:00I don't know about others: but for me at least...I don't know about others: but for me at least, my appreciation of the Model 3's interior has nothing to do with some sort of "blue pill": I have always been fond of minimalistic elegance. In other areas, such as high-end audio equipment, minimalistic designs have been a staple for a long time. The busy designs of premium cars have rather been an anomaly -- which seems to be getting rectified now...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-64764862783649033102020-03-12T15:12:48.545+00:002020-03-12T15:12:48.545+00:00The charging speed is *not* the same. The Bolt doc...The charging speed is *not* the same. The Bolt documentation mentions 80 kW, but that just means you need a charger with at least 80 kW nominal capacity to reach the Bolt's maximal charging speed; while the actual charging speed tops out at some 54 or 55 kW -- and what's worse, it tapers very badly as well. There is *plenty* of information regarding that out there.<br /><br />The Kona on the other hand reaches some 70 kW on a 100 kW charger, and has less tapering. Along with somewhat better efficiency, this all adds up to the Kona being *significantly* more practical for road trips...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-4373576506197867702020-03-12T13:16:12.849+00:002020-03-12T13:16:12.849+00:00I never been on a Kona, but i don't like its e...I never been on a Kona, but i don't like its exterior design, and the inside looks inferior to the Bolt.<br /><br />Charging speed is the same, around 80 kW.<br /><br />As for the Model 3, the form fact plays a big role, i would see myself using the Bolt as the only car, while the Model 3 would be just for weekend trips, as the Bolt is far more practical for daily commuting/shopping.<br /><br />Ideally, i would have a Bolt, or something similar, for weekly commutes, and the Model 3 for weekend trips.<br /><br />Also, i find the interior of the Bolt superior to the Model 3... <br /><br />I know this last sentence might shock some, but i find the Model 3 interior to be the weak point of the car.<br /><br />(Maybe Tesla's blue pill have no effect on me, idk)José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-53763213925878454072020-03-11T15:10:04.823+00:002020-03-11T15:10:04.823+00:00I can't say that I'm entirely surprised: t...I can't say that I'm entirely surprised: they are pretty much the cheapest BEVs available (along with the much inferior Smart); while after the upgrade, they have similar range as other models costing almost 10,000 Euro more...<br /><br />So the question is, didn't VW expect the demand? Or maybe it's that because of the delays with the ID.3, they have to continue producing e-Golf longer than planned, and thus can't shift the capacity to other models as originally intended?...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-67207407471030088122020-03-11T14:59:08.561+00:002020-03-11T14:59:08.561+00:00What about the Kona? It has pretty much identical ...What about the Kona? It has pretty much identical form factor / size, similar specs, but better charging speed...<br /><br />As for Model 3, is that just because of form factor, or are there other things you preferred in the Bolt?antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-4446926895669154462020-03-10T21:33:10.025+00:002020-03-10T21:33:10.025+00:00The effect of the pull-forward is pretty visible, ...The effect of the pull-forward is pretty visible, looking at Zoe, Leaf, i3 etc. -- it's just that there are several other models not affected, because they weren't available last year, or at least not available in sufficient numbers to satisfy demand...<br /><br />(Or in the case of the Ampera-e, not available at the current fire-sale prices.)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-17411436966851469702020-03-10T21:28:21.021+00:002020-03-10T21:28:21.021+00:00Yeah, i know it's not price competitive, but t...Yeah, i know it's not price competitive, but the car itself is quite good, such a shame it didn't got the success it deserved.<br /><br />I had one for a week and it was everything i ever wanted in an EV: small, but with plenty of space, powerful, interesting interior, nice multimedia system…<br /><br />If it had the same charging specs (and network) as the Tesla Model 3, i would even say that i would prefer it to the Tesla!José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-24495917700819623162020-03-10T21:27:46.903+00:002020-03-10T21:27:46.903+00:00There is a price cap on that though, right? And mo...There is a price cap on that though, right? And most EV sales have been company cars thus far as I understand -- i.e. they shouldn't be affected at all...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-40920374870583784472020-03-10T21:22:49.378+00:002020-03-10T21:22:49.378+00:00Ha ha ha, yes things are moving fast here, and eve...Ha ha ha, yes things are moving fast here, and even Spain and Italy are gearing up, let's hope Covid19 doesn't disrupt too much these countries and we can resume the growth path soon. José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-13379773232754446792020-03-10T19:21:21.036+00:002020-03-10T19:21:21.036+00:00Sadly the Skoda Citigo e IV + Seat Mii electric + ...Sadly the Skoda Citigo e IV + Seat Mii electric + Volkswagen E Up are sold out in the Netherlands for 2020. So the sales are production constaint, not demand constraint.<br /><br />Deliveries are slow with a lot of delay. I would have expected better from a large manufacturer like VAG.Benedictusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-19523871938344511352020-03-10T12:07:57.080+00:002020-03-10T12:07:57.080+00:00Regarding the Ampera-e being "properly market...Regarding the Ampera-e being "properly marketed": we all know that this is just a compliance model, that is only attractive when sold below costs in certain markets, since taking the loss is cheaper than paying compliance penalties. When selling at an actually profitable price -- as the Ampera-e has been after GM got rid of Opel -- it is considerably less competitive.<br /><br />(Though there was a short window of opportunity before the introduction of the Kona, Leaf+, and Model 3, where it could have seen some decent sales even at the higher price, if they had shipped them in meaningful numbers back then...)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-61309072528190185692020-03-10T11:58:53.732+00:002020-03-10T11:58:53.732+00:00While most BEV models are flat, and pretty low, st...While most BEV models are flat, and pretty low, still in the expected post-incentive-change hangover, we see some significant growth from new/refreshed models, as well as models that have been supply-constrained. This prompts some optimism for the remainder of the year, as more new models are introduced, and production of others continues ramping -- in addition to existing models presumably also slowly recovering from the hangover as the year goes on :-)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-26651491144554472742020-03-10T11:49:30.137+00:002020-03-10T11:49:30.137+00:00Most PHEV models are actually down compared to Jan...Most PHEV models are actually down compared to January. (Except for the XC40 only ramping production now...) I guess that might be explained by orders being delayed into the new year and then delivered in a burst, because of the new emission regulations. Not sure it's pronounced enough to call a trend, though... Might just be random noise.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-30630374582041491102020-03-10T11:43:08.937+00:002020-03-10T11:43:08.937+00:00I doubt the sudden surge in Niro deliveries is a r...I doubt the sudden surge in Niro deliveries is a result of a sudden production increase. Rather, I suspect that when they decided to delay European deliveries into the new year for the new emission regulations (apparently ignoring the incentive step-down in the Netherlands...), they redirected production to other markets, and only now have new shipments arrived in Europe again.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-89501280481854101272020-03-10T11:03:26.183+00:002020-03-10T11:03:26.183+00:00Hi José, I am less nice to the new group of PHEV. ...Hi José, I am less nice to the new group of PHEV. I consider them a group of Hail Marys to battle the evil CAFE.<br /> <br />In my expectations of the influence of the December end-of-incentive spike I was too pessimistic. I expected a bigger and longer lasting influence of the pull-forward. Now I think Q2 will be normal again. <br />The trailing twelve months curve is just flat, and will be climbing again in Q2.<br /> <br />My interest is now shifting to the Mediterranean markets. They are the fastest growing group.<br /> <br />So please, many more sunny reports from Southern Europe.Maarten Vinkhuyzennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-40592917937340927102020-03-10T10:18:36.837+00:002020-03-10T10:18:36.837+00:00Dont expect linear growth numbers in the Netherlan...Dont expect linear growth numbers in the Netherlands. It's just come to pass that come 1 July, there'll be a €4000 government grant towards private sales of new BEVs (€2000 for second-hand, through approved dealerships). I would expect an absolute dirth of EV sales between now and 1 July, and then an explosion of sales afterwards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com