tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post339618124953259477..comments2024-03-24T15:03:03.162+00:00Comments on EV Sales: Europe November 2020José Ponteshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-69482781893800854982021-01-24T09:26:41.891+00:002021-01-24T09:26:41.891+00:00Hello Jose,
maybe this question has been many time...Hello Jose,<br />maybe this question has been many times asked, but what countries include the European Market? Its not only EU I assume but who is in and who is out? Norway, Switzerland and now UK are non-EU countries but at least Norway and Switzerland somehow associated with the EU. And what about the balkan countries, Israel, Ukraine, Russia or Turkey which could be somewhat considered European? <br />Would be interesting to know how you define this in your stats and where you get your figures from?<br /><br />ThanksSven Dubaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01101265667147874010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-25166811265322874002021-01-09T20:57:07.140+00:002021-01-09T20:57:07.140+00:00@2handsome I guess if the CO2 fines wouldn't b...@2handsome I guess if the CO2 fines wouldn't be imminent, VW might have done something different, but not that much. They apparently have ID.3s available, so they sell them. <br /><br />NL makes sense, because of the incentive decrease, but everyone else does that (4500 Konas also isn't a regular month in the NL). But they also sold over 7k ID.3 in Germany (as well as 2k ID4) and even over 3k in GB. <br /><br />I guess in the end it will be about 25k ID.3. Why? Because they can now build that many and sell them. Was there pressure to sell them before 2021? Sure, but not just in December but the whole year. If they could have sold them earlier, then they would have.Raphael Strumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12147103636009079966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-70109442333081643972021-01-05T04:06:35.295+00:002021-01-05T04:06:35.295+00:00"Proper interior" being subjective...
S..."Proper interior" being subjective...<br /><br />Sure, given Rawlinson's history, the Lucid Air is essentially "Model S director's cut" -- but by the time it will finally be available, we will likely have an *actual* second-gen Model S, that Lucid will have a hard time competing with.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-67675104559050165252021-01-05T04:00:35.576+00:002021-01-05T04:00:35.576+00:00The Netherlands always see a huge sales spike in D...The Netherlands always see a huge sales spike in December -- especially for newly introduced models -- before the next incentives step-down.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-31086476281365577332021-01-04T20:27:24.278+00:002021-01-04T20:27:24.278+00:00I wouldn't call it a Model S clone, but a &quo...I wouldn't call it a Model S clone, but a "2nd Generation Model S", with a proper interior.José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-64818353864048087792021-01-04T20:25:18.116+00:002021-01-04T20:25:18.116+00:00Cheaper version is coming for the Polestar 2 next ...Cheaper version is coming for the Polestar 2 next summer: 40k€José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-13930847253887440322021-01-03T21:55:20.307+00:002021-01-03T21:55:20.307+00:00Also, what VW itself communicates, is viewed diffe...Also, what VW itself communicates, is viewed differently among pundits. Year end, VW focussed on markets best suited (infra, tax incentives etc) to absorb as many ID's as possible before 010121 due to the imminent fine. Fact, no fiction.2hansomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10505103451198461935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-30124432908459044102021-01-03T10:47:32.129+00:002021-01-03T10:47:32.129+00:00If they were profitable, they'd have met the g...If they were profitable, they'd have met the goals half a year ago, not in the last weeks of the year. Pretty obvious they were all aiming for a spot landing. (Some overshooting a bit, others falling short...)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-70382505807378163392021-01-01T20:06:23.339+00:002021-01-01T20:06:23.339+00:00Id 3 sales in Europe will be huge in December (why...Id 3 sales in Europe will be huge in December (why not November?) In the Netherlands id3 wins.Although it seemed to many(including me)that's was impossible.Probably VW made an effort to this and is interested in PR.In Europe ICE-90% PHEV 5%. market without borders. Need to jointly take market share (convincingly explain the benefits of EV) and not find out who is coolerVladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-79310433743982336542020-12-31T06:18:43.612+00:002020-12-31T06:18:43.612+00:00I don't know, maybe yes, maybe no. But would i...I don't know, maybe yes, maybe no. But would it really be meaningless? A lot of customers these days base their purchasing decisions sometimes on even stranger reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-65226580956809881352020-12-31T03:16:07.327+00:002020-12-31T03:16:07.327+00:00PSA,Renault,Volvo met the standards ahead of sched... PSA,Renault,Volvo met the standards ahead of schedule.They could severely restrict sales EV in December,but this is not happening.We are absolutely where it's profitable for manufacturers to sell EVVladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-23817602503796111142020-12-31T01:34:29.980+00:002020-12-31T01:34:29.980+00:00You seriously think VW would handicap their operat...You seriously think VW would handicap their operations just to be able to make such a meaningless claim?...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-55978835681780595572020-12-31T01:33:06.271+00:002020-12-31T01:33:06.271+00:00This year shows extremely clearly that auto makers...This year shows extremely clearly that auto makers' EV efforts in Europe are still driven overwhelmingly by compliance, not catering to consumer demand. I'm optimistic that this will shift in the next few years: but we are absolutely not there yet.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-7066028874627490262020-12-31T01:26:28.981+00:002020-12-31T01:26:28.981+00:00@famlin unfortunately Alex tends to put a spin on ...@famlin unfortunately Alex tends to put a spin on anything non-Tesla that at least borders on, and some would call outright FUD. Unless you check primary sources yourself (if he provides them), be wary of his claims...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-40080363015546639622020-12-31T01:12:51.035+00:002020-12-31T01:12:51.035+00:00Pretty sure modern monitors typically consume way ...Pretty sure modern monitors typically consume way less... Unless you mean TV sets.<br /><br />(It should be noted though that on top of wasting energy, running needlessly also means faster ageing...)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-68616588416115560212020-12-31T01:08:25.923+00:002020-12-31T01:08:25.923+00:00I'd be *extremely* disappointed if ID.4 doesn&...I'd be *extremely* disappointed if ID.4 doesn't end up way in front of any PHEV model...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-78856531731085023652020-12-31T01:06:03.212+00:002020-12-31T01:06:03.212+00:00Looks like Model 3 will end this year some 5,000 u...Looks like Model 3 will end this year some 5,000 units behind Zoe.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-31746650916640066982020-12-31T01:04:39.585+00:002020-12-31T01:04:39.585+00:00Multiple ranges for ID.3 will only become availabl...Multiple ranges for ID.3 will only become available next year: for now, it's all just different trims of the mid-range variant.<br /><br />And there is no frunk.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-35275038522763441462020-12-30T18:59:59.938+00:002020-12-30T18:59:59.938+00:00VW can then say they beat Tesla even in their stro...VW can then say they beat Tesla even in their strongest month. Which would actually be a remarkable achievement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-73507679424529542762020-12-30T16:58:45.430+00:002020-12-30T16:58:45.430+00:00@hansome
That raises our hopes of ID.3 ending up ...@hansome<br /><br />That raises our hopes of ID.3 ending up in #3 since its a dedicated BEV with multiple ranges. Any idea on frunk volume of ID.3 Does the european government website include the frunk volume. <br />famlinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-29285990658291843812020-12-30T14:14:51.699+00:002020-12-30T14:14:51.699+00:00The OEMs might target 15%. The public is discoveri...The OEMs might target 15%. The public is discovering BEV and buying them.<br />If a VW dealer has a customer with the ID.3, Kona, and Zoe on its shortlist. Will the dealer try to sell the ID.3 or a fossil fuel vehicle?<br />The same goes for any other dealer.<br /> <br />All carmakers are hard at work on hybridization of all models. They have to because the EURO-7 standard is accepted for 2025. Many fossil fuel models, and all non-hybrid models, will be EOL shortly after 2025. They will never be able to comply with EURO-7 emission levels.<br /> <br />Current policy at most carmakers is making BEV with too small batteries and PHEV that can do the job. It works for now, as the fast increase of PHEV sales shows, even where they have no incentives for PHEV.<br /> <br />Market pressure to make better BEV and the threat that more realistic exhaust limits will be used for PHEV will change this.Maarten Vinkhuyzennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-56988068154665947352020-12-30T12:58:35.115+00:002020-12-30T12:58:35.115+00:00VW advertisements for the ID.3 as well as ads for ...VW advertisements for the ID.3 as well as ads for the Audi-Etron GT are shown during prime time on German TV...Stephan90https://www.blogger.com/profile/04111729018542004869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-51899859622192798362020-12-30T12:10:41.254+00:002020-12-30T12:10:41.254+00:00I think that the main impetus for increasing sales...I think that the main impetus for increasing sales next year there will be no bans and tightening,but a positive driving experience,large selection and the realization that we need to give up as soon as possible ICE.I really want to believe that the share will be greater 25%Vladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-86535316362801767082020-12-30T11:27:40.010+00:002020-12-30T11:27:40.010+00:00@famlin
VW really is doing everything to make ID s...@famlin<br />VW really is doing everything to make ID series succeed. <br />- they stopped sales of E-up city triplets<br />- they make Golf PHEV much more expensive than Mercedes A250e <br /><br />Motivation may be the survival of their CEO. Kooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18190230449830197502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-91091909409563569532020-12-30T08:05:51.699+00:002020-12-30T08:05:51.699+00:00It means VW, not Golf. It could be ID.3 as best BE...It means VW, not Golf. It could be ID.3 as best BEV, and Golf as best PHEV.senjanoreply@blogger.com