tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post5793211931702593720..comments2024-03-24T15:03:03.162+00:00Comments on EV Sales: Norway February 2020José Ponteshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-33948767754992732762020-05-04T22:54:46.502+00:002020-05-04T22:54:46.502+00:00A bit early. 10% of the passenger car in Norway is...A bit early. 10% of the passenger car in Norway is now BEV. But not the other types of vehicles .<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04215462215492317442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-56986778830079559422020-03-31T13:19:08.676+00:002020-03-31T13:19:08.676+00:00Wee!
Model S: 59 / Taycan: 135
Model X: 136 / EQC...Wee!<br /><br />Model S: 59 / Taycan: 135<br />Model X: 136 / EQC: 257<br />Model 3: 1211 / e-tron: 3733<br /><br />It`s disruption, Stupid!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-7725793689916228702020-03-30T12:29:53.738+00:002020-03-30T12:29:53.738+00:00I'm aware of these numbers -- but they are dec...I'm aware of these numbers -- but they are deceptive. Sure, front leg room is (marginally) shorter for example: but with a 8 or 9 cm higher seating position, the actual room available is much bigger...<br /><br />It's pretty much a geometric impossibility for the Model Y not to be much more roomy than the Model 3.<br /><br />I've seen people claim that the Model Y is actually almost as large as the Model X... Though clearly those are exaggerating in the other direction :-)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-90557910296213410992020-03-30T09:14:35.294+00:002020-03-30T09:14:35.294+00:00https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/8Ml3M/s1/tesla-m...https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/8Ml3M/s1/tesla-model-y-vs-model-3-comparison-graphics.jpgJosé Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-68029990884386620782020-03-30T01:38:32.287+00:002020-03-30T01:38:32.287+00:00Huh? Of course the Model Y is *way* more roomy tha...Huh? Of course the Model Y is *way* more roomy than Model 3! It's 18.6 cm taller (some 16 cm of which is for the cabin, as ground clearance is only marginally higher); as well as 7 cm wider and 6 cm longer.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-22437517282025191352020-03-29T11:21:42.829+00:002020-03-29T11:21:42.829+00:00On the e-Tron thing: having driven both the Model ...On the e-Tron thing: having driven both the Model 3 and e-Tron, i can tell you the Audi has much more space than the Model 3, hell, i think it might even have more space than the Model S!<br /><br />So, either the Model Y has much more space than the Model 3, something neither of us know, or, if it has more or less the same space as the Model 3, then the e-Tron is one category above.José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-14797094833791773242020-03-27T00:36:35.398+00:002020-03-27T00:36:35.398+00:00BTW, I wonder whether Mr. Anonymous realises that ...BTW, I wonder whether Mr. Anonymous realises that he is basically celebrating the virus? Since that's what is actually disrupting Tesla's sales right now...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-59948882403551643092020-03-27T00:30:23.234+00:002020-03-27T00:30:23.234+00:00As you know, these labels are somewhat arbitrary -...As you know, these labels are somewhat arbitrary -- especially in the CUV/SUV space, where to the best of my knowledge, there isn't even any informal norm? Some people use similar length classifications as for cars; while others use different scales entirely. (By American standards for exmaple, the Model Y apparently is "compact", while the Model X is "mid-size"...)<br /><br />However, I don't think I have ever seen anyone classify CUVs/SUVs by having the same interior space as the equivalent car classes... On the contrary: if anything, SUVs more often need to be longer to be considered the "same" size class as cars.<br /><br />As for the e-tron, its size sits squarely in the middle between the Model Y and Model X -- and also between Audi's Q5 and Q7, for that matter... So where does that leave it?<br /><br />I personally tend to put it in the "mid-size" category, because I (still) doubt it is significantly (if any) more roomy than the Model Y. (Though to be fair, I guess it isn't less roomy than combustion cars of the same size?...)<br /><br />When looking at sales numbers, price is another consideration. In terms of list price, the e-tron again sits in between the Model Y and Model X. (At least in Europe.) However, if it's true that it's seeing heavy discounts, as someone recently claimed (e-tron leases supposedly being cheaper than a basic Model 3?), then this would very much put that on the radar of buyers looking at mid-sized vehicles -- a segment that didn't really have any BEV entrants thus far. And that's surely what's responsible for the current sales success...<br /><br />(Also, it *definitely* makes more sense to look at it in these terms, than absurdly pitching it against the Model 3, like the anonymous poster above did...)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-44340020601358344512020-03-25T11:39:37.237+00:002020-03-25T11:39:37.237+00:00Why do you keep saying the e-Tron is midsize?!!?
...Why do you keep saying the e-Tron is midsize?!!?<br /><br />It has much more space than the Model 3, if the e-Tron is midsize, then the Model 3 is compact!José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-15729362118629136962020-03-24T20:52:38.593+00:002020-03-24T20:52:38.593+00:00It sure looks like, at the prices they are current...It sure looks like, at the prices they are currently dumping it for, the e-tron is finally disrupting the mid-sized SUV segment :-) Would be really interesting to see how the sales of combustion cars and PHEVs in that segment are faring -- one of the few remaining non-BEV holdouts in Norway, up till now...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-2664932173401612612020-03-24T08:47:46.233+00:002020-03-24T08:47:46.233+00:00Whoo!
Model S: 49 / Taycan: 100
Model X: 101 / EQ...Whoo!<br /><br />Model S: 49 / Taycan: 100<br />Model X: 101 / EQC: 163<br />Model 3: 871 / e-tron: 3287<br /><br />It`s disruption, Stupid!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-59300612079400841572020-03-17T22:34:30.204+00:002020-03-17T22:34:30.204+00:00Hi!
Model S: 44 / Taycan: 80
Model X: 79 / EQC: 1...Hi!<br /><br />Model S: 44 / Taycan: 80<br />Model X: 79 / EQC: 132<br />Model 3: 605 / e-tron: 2604<br /><br />It`s disruption, Stupid!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-91982519291260173742020-03-11T15:29:57.367+00:002020-03-11T15:29:57.367+00:00~25,000 Model 3 heading for Europe in Q1, all sold...~25,000 Model 3 heading for Europe in Q1, all sold out... But yeah, keep on divining bigger trends from daily delivery figures :-)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-87325488208773705572020-03-11T12:37:21.733+00:002020-03-11T12:37:21.733+00:00ONLY 91! crazy.:)ONLY 91! crazy.:)Vladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-69536422396635748512020-03-11T11:57:15.467+00:002020-03-11T11:57:15.467+00:00@Anonymous
Rejoice early.@Anonymous<br />Rejoice early.Vladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-14690314141989344202020-03-11T11:37:38.752+00:002020-03-11T11:37:38.752+00:00 Honda E-first registration Honda E-first registrationVladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-54743817748139861702020-03-11T11:13:51.135+00:002020-03-11T11:13:51.135+00:00T3 wins March E-tron wins QT3 wins March E-tron wins QVladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-19260835190779935652020-03-10T22:47:39.329+00:002020-03-10T22:47:39.329+00:00Ha!
Model S: 39 / Taycan: 66
Model X: 68 / EQC: 1...Ha!<br /><br />Model S: 39 / Taycan: 66<br />Model X: 68 / EQC: 125<br />Model 3: 427 / e-tron: 2472<br /><br />It`s disruption, Stupid!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-47944722842820526262020-03-10T21:15:55.790+00:002020-03-10T21:15:55.790+00:00You're right, it's the XC60 PHEV that shou...You're right, it's the XC60 PHEV that should have been in the Top 10, sorry for that!José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-31811203843466208812020-03-10T21:14:41.320+00:002020-03-10T21:14:41.320+00:00I know, can't wait for a 100% BEV Top 10!I know, can't wait for a 100% BEV Top 10!José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-16403788757231593222020-03-10T21:12:21.727+00:002020-03-10T21:12:21.727+00:00Or replacing them for fast-chargers :)Or replacing them for fast-chargers :)José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-23622640289187034612020-03-10T16:06:50.015+00:002020-03-10T16:06:50.015+00:00Recent daily numbers have been quite underwhelming...Recent daily numbers have been quite underwhelming actually, especially considering they're aiming for 500k deliveries in 2020 which looks highly unlikely to be achieved. Observerhttp://observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-51045058575860605322020-03-10T15:52:06.218+00:002020-03-10T15:52:06.218+00:00No, it is not unlikely. It is probable.No, it is not unlikely. It is probable.Observerhttp://observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-31636493959668383212020-03-10T12:38:40.588+00:002020-03-10T12:38:40.588+00:00@José in the all-fuels February top 10, you put th...@José in the all-fuels February top 10, you put the S/V60 in the last spot -- but according to the EV top 20, that should be the XC60?...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-37075638871564603522020-03-10T12:36:46.317+00:002020-03-10T12:36:46.317+00:00With the return of the Soul, and some other long-t...With the return of the Soul, and some other long-time favourites returning to form, the all-fuels top 10 looks more healthy again :-) With Model 3 returning in March, the Outlander PHEV might very well be the only model with a combustion engine remaining in the top 10... And with more interesting new BEV models coming, this might become standard going forward :-)antriknoreply@blogger.com