tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post846795154858960310..comments2024-03-24T15:03:03.162+00:00Comments on EV Sales: Netherlands November 2019José Ponteshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-28356560798126917212019-12-19T21:53:43.268+00:002019-12-19T21:53:43.268+00:00I'm more and more convinced that *all* legacy ...I'm more and more convinced that *all* legacy makers are in deep trouble -- even those who seem to be taking EVs seriously now, like VW. While their EV programs will give them a way forward longer term, these won't be enough to make up for the upcoming sudden collapse of combustion car sales... I'd be surprised if any of them makes it through without bankruptcy, or at least near bankruptcy.<br /><br />(And that doesn't even account for the other upcoming big disruption, from autonomy...)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-58442398800404670362019-12-19T14:04:54.188+00:002019-12-19T14:04:54.188+00:00I agree that in many countries the sales drop has ...I agree that in many countries the sales drop has to do with plugins and not some other economic factor, which leaves car makers that are behind the EV curve in deep trouble.<br /><br />Besides the PSA-FCA merger, let's wait and see what else will happen.José Ponteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927229481945352747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-76628815157949290122019-12-17T17:52:48.377+00:002019-12-17T17:52:48.377+00:00Yeah, that's something I have seen brought up ...Yeah, that's something I have seen brought up in a number of places. Some believe (and I tend to agree) that combustion car sales will collapse even faster than EV production can be ramped up, before the middle of the next decade. Which means legacy auto is in even deeper shit than they could ever imagine...<br /><br />Some people also think that it's already having a noticeable effect right now, being partially responsible for the current worldwide slump in auto sales... Though I haven't seen any research to confirm this suspicion.antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-15629426678684165492019-12-17T13:31:05.417+00:002019-12-17T13:31:05.417+00:00I think, even in to much progressive way, people a...I think, even in to much progressive way, people are more and more moving for an electrified solution (PHEV or BEV), so like I'am noticing more and more among friends and hearing other people saying that instead of buying a new petrol/diesel car, they will wait having the budget for an plug-in car or wait for more compelling ones adapted to their budget.<br />Osborne effect it is, Yoda would have said! Marsusulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05509601652812167102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-2841695472424766202019-12-12T06:15:15.462+00:002019-12-12T06:15:15.462+00:00Uh, no: despite the upcoming step-down, EV incenti...Uh, no: despite the upcoming step-down, EV incentives will still be very large -- while at the same time EVs are getting even more competitive on their own. There won't be many people who wanted to buy an EV this year, but go back to combustion cars next year.<br /><br />(Of course there will be a collapse in EV sales at the beginning of next year, because of the demand pull-forward -- but it will recover, and go for another peak towards the end of next year, before the next step-down...)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-6043213145356005302019-12-11T18:56:59.749+00:002019-12-11T18:56:59.749+00:00In a year everyone will climb into the caves again...In a year everyone will climb into the caves again,without any meaning.Vladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-16837291319685719592019-12-11T11:58:59.775+00:002019-12-11T11:58:59.775+00:00Meaningless bubble sale. Next year, everyone will ...Meaningless bubble sale. Next year, everyone will buy petrol cars again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-65135933762591952042019-12-09T17:00:43.580+00:002019-12-09T17:00:43.580+00:00Tesla 3-8500,EV-4000,Zoe-?,PHEV-600=about 14000.ma...Tesla 3-8500,EV-4000,Zoe-?,PHEV-600=about 14000.market share 30-35%.if that happeens the numbers are impressiveVladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-10318445318377874462019-12-09T10:46:46.777+00:002019-12-09T10:46:46.777+00:00In the Overall Ranking should the Niro and Golf be...In the Overall Ranking should the Niro and Golf be in black as they're electrified?<br /><br />Thanks for another update, I was looking forward to the Netherlands - 18% PEV share, wow!Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14460048887563528351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-76077330642496948532019-12-09T09:59:16.571+00:002019-12-09T09:59:16.571+00:00December T3 8500-9500December T3 8500-9500Vladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01882302429397402385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-81590275199400676952019-12-09T09:00:56.054+00:002019-12-09T09:00:56.054+00:00It should be noted that the expensive BEV models (...It should be noted that the expensive BEV models (Model S, Model X, I-Pace) are seeing less of a boom this year, since they were heavily affected by the previous subsidy change, and thus most of the pull-forward already happened last year... So while all three are well up compared to the earlier part of the present year, it's still not even close to what they saw last year.<br /><br />This doesn't apply to the e-tron though, since it wasn't available last year -- so it's rather surprising that it isn't getting a larger boost this time around. I guess most buyers interested in large BEVs simply opted for Tesla or Jaguar instead, when Audi couldn't deliver last year...<br /><br />(Either that, or VW/Audi somehow missed the memo that unlike in the rest of Europe, delaying deliveries in the Netherlands won't gain them any points for the 2020 emission regulations game...)antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-83497723003077357262019-12-09T08:49:33.671+00:002019-12-09T08:49:33.671+00:00Are you sure the ID CROZZ (Id.4x?) should be count...Are you sure the ID CROZZ (Id.4x?) should be counted in the mid-size category? My understanding is that it won't be much larger than the Id.3 (just taller), and thus rather qualify as compact?...antriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1399793419425111085.post-27729921076257949642019-12-09T08:47:56.752+00:002019-12-09T08:47:56.752+00:00Will all top 5 entrants in the mid-size car catego...Will all top 5 entrants in the mid-size car category being premium models, I doubt the Passat etc. will break into this list... The Polestar 2 should be the next EV candidate having a shot at entering this list in 2020; followed by BMW i4 some time in 2021.antriknoreply@blogger.com